Nunes surveillance memo sparks fierce debate


>>NATIONAL SECURITY LAWYERS IN THE WHITE HOUSE, THEY WORK FOR ME, WORK FOR THE PRESIDENT. THEY ARE SLICING AND DICING, LOOKING AT IT SO THAT WHAT IT MEANS.>>WANTS EVERYTHING SO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE CAN MAKE UP THEIR OWN MIND.>>NOTHING IS SO REPUGNANT AND FRIGHTENING AS THE REPUBLICANS ALL-OUT ASSAULT ON LAW ENFORCEMENT, THE FBI.>>Bret: HASN’T BEEN THIS MUCH I DON’T THINK EVER. THIS MEMO IS LIKELY COMING OUT BUT THE FBI PUSHING BACK, RELEASING A STATEMENT SAYING THE FBI TAKES SERIOUSLY ITS OBLIGATIONS TO THE FISA COURT, IN THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND THE FBI. WE ARE COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH THE APPROPRIATE OVERSIGHT ENTITIES TO ENSURE THE CONTINUING INTEGRITY OF THE FISA PROCESS. WITH THE GUARD TO THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE’S MEMO, THE FBI WAS PROVIDED A LIMITED VOTED TO RELEASE IT. AS EXPRESSED DURING OUR INITIAL REVIEW, WE HAVE GRAVE CONCERNS MEMO’S ACCURACY. TO WHICH THE HOUSE INTEL CHAIR, DEVIN NUNES, RESPONDED WITH “THE MEMO CONTAINS ALL THE REVLON FACTS ON FISA ABUSE AFTER FIGHTING OUR DEMANDS FOR THESE DOCUMENTS FOR MONTHS, THE FBI DOJ NOW SEEM TO BE GOING THROUGH A SERIES OF INCREASINGLY RIDICULOUS, INCREASINGLY DESPERATE EXCUSES TO AVOID TRANSPARENCY.” WHERE ARE WE ON THIS? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? FORMER CIA ANALYST BUCK SEXTON. PHILIP BUMP. BILL McGURN, “WALL STREET JOURNAL” .” THE FBI CLEARLY LAYING DOWN A MARKER HERE, SAYING THIS IS WHAT>>FEDERAL BUREAUCRACIES ARE ALWAYS GOING TO SPEND THEIR ENERGY AND TIME DEFENDING AS YOU POINTED OUT, WE HAVEN’T SEEN THE MEMO YET SO WE ARE DOING A LOT OF DEBATING OF SOMETHING WE DON’T HAVE THE FACTS ON. I WOULD NOTE THAT AT THIS POINT WHAT IS REALLY THE OTHER OPTION. I’M GOING TO PRETEND THIS HASN’T HAPPENED, THIS NATIONAL DISCUSSION ISN’T ONGOING AND WE TALKING ABOUT UNDERMINING FAITH AND INSTITUTIONS. SEEMS TO ME THAT WITHDRAWING CONGRESS’ ABILITY AND OBLIGATIONS DO OVERSIGHT HERE OPTIONS. THE BETTER OPTION IS FOR HER TO COME OUT. DEMOCRATS CAN RESPOND, THE FBI CAN ADD THE CONTACTS THEY THINK IS NECESSARY IN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE CAN FINALLY KNOW THERE IS A PRESIDENCY AT STAKE HERE. STEPHEN>>RYAN SEEM TO INDICATE THAT THE DEMOCRATIC VERSION OF THE MEMO IS GOING TO GO THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS. DIANNE FEINSTEIN, SENATOR FEINSTEIN SAYS IT’S CLEAR THE GOAL IS TO UNDERMINE THE SPECIAL COUNSEL’S INVESTIGATION. IF TRANSPARENCY WHERE THE OBJECTIVE, REPUBLICANS WOULD SUPPORT RELEASING THE DEMOCRATIC MEMO SIMULTANEOUSLY BUT THEY ARE BLOCKING IT. PLAYING POLITICS WITH THE HIGHLY CLASSIFIED INFORMATION. THE PRESIDENT SHOULDN’T PLACE PARTISAN INTERESTS OVER OUR NATIONAL SECURITY.” THIS SERIES OF EVENTS AS THE SPEAKER DESCRIBES THEM.>>I THINK THAT THE QUESTION THAT OVERHANGS ALL OF THIS IS THE QUESTION OF URGENCY. WHAT IS THE URGENCY AT PLAY HERE. WHY IS IT THAT THE MEMO, TO THE POINT, YES, IF YOU RELEASE THE MEMO, THEN THE INFORMATION IS OUT THERE. THE FBI HAS EXPRESSED CONCERNS ABOUT THE CONTENTS OF THE MENTAL REPEATEDLY ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASION. TODAY ROD ROSENSTEIN INDICATED HE SHARED THE CONCERNS THAT THE FBI HAD. THE QUESTION I THINK, THE BROADER QUESTION HERE IS THE QUESTION I THINK IS REINFORCED BY WHAT SENATOR FEINSTEIN SAID IS WHY ISN’T THE CASE THAT THERE IS NO UNIFIED DOCUMENT THAT COMES OUT POTENTIALLY FROM THE REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS ARTICULATING THE CONCERNS WITH THE FISA PROCESS AND HAVE THAT BE THE THING THAT IS PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC INSTEAD OF WHAT’S THE WORST PRODUCT.>>I THINK THE FBI’S ARGUMENT IS RIDICULOUS. THEY HAVE SHIFTED THE ARGUMENT. THEY USED TO SAY IT WAS SOURCES AND METHODS. NOW THEY ARE SAYING BASICALLY WOULD BE MATERIAL EMBARRASSING TO US. THIS IS THE COLONEL JESSUP REGIMENT FROM “A FEW GOOD MEN.” WE HAVE TWO QUESTIONS OVER THIS, I DID DONALD TRUMP COLLUDE WITH THE RUSSIANS TO STEAL THE ELECTION IN 2016 AND DID THE FBI AND DOJ PUT THEIR FINGERS ON THE SCALE. THE REMEMBER THIS IS CHRISTOPHER WRAY IN HIS TESTIMONY FOR CONFIRMATION SPOKE ABOUT HOW HE COULDN’T GIVE CONGRESS INFORMATION BECAUSE IT WAS CLASSIFIED. THIS GETS US BACKWARDS. THE FBI’S ACCOUNTABLE TO WE THE PEOPLE, CONGRESS, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.>>Bret: IT SEEMS LIKE IT’S COMING TO A HEAD, WE ARE HEARING IT COULD BE TOMORROW. WHAT DO YOU THINK THE FOLLOWING WILL BE IF THE FBI OBJECTIONS — IF IT REALLY DOES MAKE THE FBI AND THE DOJ LOOK AS BAD AS SOME REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS SUGGESTED DUST.>>IT GETS US INTO A CRITICAL DISTINCTION OF THE WHITE HOUSE AND OTHERS HAVE BEEN TRYING TO THERE IS NO EFFORT TO UNDERMINE WHOLESALE’S DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND ALL THAT IT DOES, THIS IS ABOUT THE ACTIONS OF A FEW INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE IN VERY SENIOR LEVELS AT THOSE INSTITUTIONS AND BRINGING THEM TO LIGHT SO THERE CAN BE ACCOUNTABILITY. THE POINT THAT WAS MADE, CONGRESS HAS OVERSIGHT HERE. IT’S NOT A SEPARATE AND INDEPENDENT BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT. THAT’S WHY I THINK THE TRANSPARENCY ISSUE HERE, DOESN’T SEEM TO BE A WORTHWHILE COUNTERARGUMENT. I’M NOT SAYING IT, ESPECIALLY THAT YOU WANT YOUR OWN SAY?>>Bret: TRYING TO SEPARATE IT FROM THE SPECIAL COUNSEL’S INVESTIGATION SEEMS A LITTLE TOUGH. THE SPEAKER TRIED TO WALK THAT LINE YESTERDAY. IT’S ALL INTERCONNECTED.>>SEEMS TO BE. WE SAID THIS 100 TIMES. WE DON’T KNOW WHAT IS IN THE MEMO. BUT IT’S CLEAR THAT ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT’S BEEN RAISED ABOUT THE MEMO IS THE EXTENT TO WHICH THE WHITE HOUSE IS ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT THE RELEASE BECAUSE IT WILL CAST DOUBT ON THAT ENTIRE PROCESS. THAT’S AN ASPECT TO IT. I THINK SPEAKER RYAN WAS TRYING TO BE DELIBERATE IN SAYING THIS IS SOMETHING SEPARATE FROM THAT TO TRY AND ERASE THE SENSE THAT MIGHT BE OUT THERE. ALL OF THAT SAID, I THINK — WE OBJECTIVE ACTORS WHEREAS THE TRAINED FBI OFFICIALS WERE TRAINED TO ACT OBJECTIVELY ARE THE ONES THAT ARE ACTING ON A A LOT OF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC. IT PAINTED A DIFFERENT PICTURE.>>I WOULD RATHER HEAR PEOPLE CONCERNED ABOUT TRUTH. THERE ARE SERIOUS QUESTIONS RAISED ABOUT THE FBI. IF THE FBI MISREPRESENTED INFORMATION TO FISA COURT, THE PREMIER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY IN THE WORLD, THAT’S A BIG DEAL BECAUSE IF THEY CHANGE THEIR 300 TO FORM, THE INTERVIEW FORM, THAT’S A BIG DEAL TO GETS THE HEART OF GOVERNMENT. TO ME IT’S WORSE THAN IF A POLITICIAN’S SCRIPT. IF A POLITICIAN IS CORRUPT, IT’S ONE THING. IF THE OBJECTIVE INSTITUTIONS — I FIND IT SO STRANGE THAT NEVER HAVE SO MANY THOUGHTS HARD TO PREVENT SO MUCH INFORMATION FROM ARGUMENTS, WHETHER IT’S LACK OF CONTACT WITH HER WAS PUT

80 thoughts on “Nunes surveillance memo sparks fierce debate

  1. If it's no big deal why are the DOJ, FBI, and dems going crazy? It will show them for what they are, greasy criminals.

  2. The highest levels of the FBI and DOJ have no reason to expect any good faith from Americans at this point. They’ve been implicated in some serious wrongdoing. Release the memo – it is the only thing Americans will accept. You cannot restore faith in institutions through secrecy.

  3. Of course Dipshit Donald wants to release the memo (which he reportedly has not read, and presumably because he can't read) and expose to the world more of our state secrets for personal and/or political gain, just as he betrayed the trust of one of our closest allies (Israel) when he disclosed to the Russians (in that "secret" yet not-so-secret meeting in the Oval Office back in May of last year) details of a highly classified Israeli operation (which was shared with the U.S. under strict confidentiality ).
    "Trump betrayed us," said a senior Israeli military official. "And if we can't trust him, then we're going to have to do what is necessary on our own if our back is up against the wall with Iran."

  4. "nothing is as repugnant and frightening as the republicans all out assault on law enforcement"

    can anyone tell me when this started so far i've seen more dems taking aim at law enforcement more then any republican the only place right now with issues is the f.b.i's top level leadership not the entry level agents so how is that all out assault

    also the f.b.i. just 2 days ago said there was nothing factually false in the memo but were worried about possible sources being revealed now it's got to many holes to be true so which is it f.b.i. too much or too little

  5. If there was Nothing to see in the memo or the FBI was "Clean" Feinstein and Shiff would have leaked it already. The only reason they are bitchin is because they are involved.

  6. RELEASE THE FUCKING MEMO, WE WANT TO SEE HEADS ROLL, IF THEY ARE CONCERNED WITH THE LITTLE MATERIAL, SUPPLY THE ENTIRE MATERIAL, THE DEMOCRATS ARE OUR ENEMIES , THEY DID EVEN STAND TO CLAP FOR THE NATION CONCERN AT STATE OF UNION

  7. It is MORE than just "it will cast doubt on the Mueller investigation". It is about whether the Mueller investigation itself was part of a PLOT by people inside the FBI (and others in gov't ) to use the FISA court to SPY on candidate/president-elect/President Trump and discredit him and FORCE him from office.

  8. "Nothing is so repugnant as the Republican all out assault on law enforcement and the FBI," Oh, really? I can think of something that is more repugnant: Democrats' and corrupt DOJ and FBI phony Russian collusion assault on a duly elected President in an effort to unseat him; that's right up there with piles of human feces. Weiden looks like a rat because he is a rat. Funny how that worked out.

  9. Everyone should be fearful and livid that "crude" aspersions are being used as a viable pretext to turn the full force of US government against citizens…….

  10. No one elected the FBI to run this country. If the boss, the Congress, tells you that the American people need to see what the FBI is up to, then so be it. Release the memo! and let the chips fall where they may. If the FBI broke no laws, then they have nothing to worry about.

  11. The republicans said no to the democrats memo is because the democrats said they or FBI could not read till they voted yes to release it. Like how stupid are they. You can read it after you vote yes.

  12. The corruption that infects the deepest recesses of our government will be purged, the truth of their criminal actions will be exposed, and the perpetrators will be prosecuted.

  13. If the memo was something bad about Trump, it would already be public. Release the memo. The Demoncrats have spent a year looking for something.

  14. The democratic cronyism has ruined the reputation of the fbi and their continued use of the description of an attack by republicans further tarnishes the fbi because they refuse to acknowledge that the targeting of a rival political candidate for surveillance based on opposition resource written by a Russian intelligence agent is insane. All of this is insane and to sack 100 bureaucrats for this is nothing in fact they should fire all the bureaucracies and then recreate them 10% of them

  15. That Washington Post douchenozzle should pull his head out of his ass, and also hire a very good lawyer. Anyone (in the media of all places) who fights that hard to cover up corruption is complicit in it. Who is paying you for your propaganda services?

  16. "In case you haven't connected the news dots… Putin controls the largest oil company in Russia. He made a 500 Billion dollar deal with the CEO of Exxon Mobil. Obama put sanctions in place which stopped that deal. Russia then hacked into our government in order to get Trump elected. When the CIA told Congress this in September (James Comey was also in that meeting), Mitch McConnell refused to tell the American people, blackmailing Obama saying he would frame it as playing partisan politics during the election. Comey released the infamous no-information letter. Mitch McConnell's wife was picked for Trump's cabinet. The CEO of Exxon is now the Secretary of State. Wonder why our President has been so quick to dismiss the CIA's findings?………it gets better..2/…Here are some facts : Decide for yourselves 1) Trump owes Blackstone/ Bayrock group $560 million dollars (one of his largest debtors and the primary reason he won't reveal his tax returns)
    2) Blackstone is owned wholly by Russian billionaires, who owe their position to Putin and have made billions from their work with the Russian government.
    3) Other companies that have borrowed from Blackstone have claimed that owing money to them is like owing to the Russian mob and while you owe them, they own you for many favors.
    4) The Russian economy is badly faltering under the weight of its over-dependence on raw materials which as you know have plummeted in the last 2 years leaving the Russian economy scrambling to pay its debts.
    5) Russia has an impetus to influence our election to ensure the per barrel oil prices are above $65 ( they are currently hovering around $50)
    6) Russia can't affordably get at 80% of its oil reserves and reduce its per barrel cost to compete with America at $45 or Saudi Arabia at $39. With Iranian sanctions being lifted Russia will find another inexpensive competitor increasing production and pushing Russia further down the list of suppliers.
    As for Iranian sanctions, the 6 countries lifting them allowing Iran to collect on the billions it is owed for pumping oil but not being paid for it. These billions Iran can only get if the Iranian nuclear deal is signed. Trump spoke of ending the deals which would cause oil sales sanctions to be reimposed, which would make Russian oil more competitive.
    7) Rex Tillerson (Trump's pick for Secretary of State) is the head of ExxonMobil, which is in possession of patented technology that could help Putin extract 45% more oil at a significant cost savings to Russia, helping Putin put money in the Russian coffers to help reconstitute its military and finally afford to mass produce the new and improved systems that it had invented before the Russian economy had slowed so much.
    😎 Putin cannot get access to these new cost saving technologies OR outside oil field development money, due to US sanctions on Russia, because of its involvement in Ukrainian civil war.
    9) Look for Trump to end sanctions on Russia and to back out of the Iranian nuclear deal, to help Russia rebuild its economy, strengthen Putin and make Tillerson and Trump even richer, thus allowing Trump to satisfy his creditors at Blackstone.
    10) With Trump's fabricated hatred of NATO and the U.N., the Russian military reconstituted, the threat to the Baltic states is real. Russia retaking their access to the Baltic Sea from Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia and threatening the shipping of millions of cubic feet of natural gas to lower Europe from Scandinavia, allowing Russia to make a good case for its oil."

  17. How about an all out Assault on Our President and the American People who Voted for President Trump. Trump2020 #MAGA🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
    #ReleaseTheMemo🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

  18. Release the financial reports as to who all contributed the 9 million dollars to fund this fake Russian doccier. Many Neocons, Rhino's and Democrats will be exposed. Diane Feinstein and Pelosi and McCain and Paul Ryan and Trey Gowdy and Schumer and Schiff and many others will be implicated in this attempt to take down Trump.

  19. Richard Blumenthal has a lot to try and hide., as do Feinstein and Rubio and Gowdy, Schumer, Schiff and man members of the CFR and TLC and many bankers and stock brokers, CEOs etc…..The rats are all trying to jump off the sinking ship.

  20. ACCOUNTABILITY FOR AMERICAN GOVERNMENT AND TRANSPARENCY OF GOVERNMENT IN AMERICA…
    RELEASE THE MEMO ASAP MR PRESIDENT.
    AMERICANS BELIEVE IN JUSTICE AND HONEST REPRESENTATION IN WASHINGTON DC..
    GOD BLESS AMERICA…
    FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS.

  21. Democrats are scared. Looking like its got nothing to with trump other than the fbi got a warrant to spy on him using a fake dosia that Clinton paid for. Hmmmm. Of course democrats don't want this out. Neither does the fbi. Its corrupt and embarrassing.

  22. HILARIOUS!!! the TOP law enforcement official?? IS THE PRESIDENT!!! The DemocRATS have been assaulting and smearing and FRAMING him since before the election!! what a group of LIARS..I will NEVER vote for another democrat again!!! This is the same "party" that used to LOVE whistle blowers that expose the "wrong doings" and "abuse of power" of government agencies UNTIL it was Obama's lackeys being exposed….

  23. In response to FOIA and Congressional requests, the FBI has stonewalled for months released heavily redacted documents, or denied their existence. It's clear they're hiding something.
    The Democrats say we can't question the alleged misdeeds of top officials because it smears the entire organization. Wrong.
    I think a majority of the rank and file would love to see corrupt top management rooted out.

  24. The democrats weren't interested in working with the republicans with this. The republicans in the committee have said that the only reason they didn't release both at the same time was that there is some inaccuracies in the democratic one that needed to be corrected. They worked on this for months while the dems did theirs in two days using the same material. Over a million pages of raw data? I'm impressed by the democrat's speed reading abilities if nothing else. It's true that the democrats normally release their stuff through leaks anyway. I will almost venture to guess that the democratic memo will be released (leaked) right about the same time as the main one. Also, does the democratic memo have all the people on Twitter calling for it like the main one does? I see that Feinstein and Schiff didn't believe Twitter when they told them the first time that #releasethememo wasn't Russian bots so they wrote Twitter again demanding that they give them a different answer? Maybe they should just go check out #releasethememo themselves. They'd see that most people now start out their tweet by declaring that they are not Russian bots and many are providing proof. If they would actually investigate what they are complaining about just once, maybe they wouldn't look so stupid. They are laughable.

  25. The same FBI who let Hillary Clinton get off with storing classified documents on a private server doesn't want the letter released! IF If FBI and DOJ violated the 4th Amendment, those responsible should go to jail. The American people need to know! We need to know the truth. (Every military member who has or had a security clearance knows that Hillary Clinton broke the law)

  26. When Richard Nixon was run out of office it was for cover up. The DNC HQ at Watergate was broken into by some Republicans to try to get DNC secrets. Nixon wasn't involved in the break in but tried to cover it up. I view his famous statement stonewall it as a vote for cover up. This last election the Dems broke into Trump tower electronically trying to get Trump secrets. They used the FBI to do it using a fake document paid for by HRC thru the DNC. Now the Demo politicians are voting to cover it up. They should be run out of office just like Nixon was.

  27. Brest Bare. Release the memo. We know about. Need the prof. Release. We Americans want the memo. The Whole Memo. The real. And All MEMO. Now Now. Release the MEMO. Now !! !!!!!!!!!!!

  28. The only thing frightening, or rather frightened are the guilty dems who colluded and are guilty! Historic times……the last days are here, repent!

  29. Shine the brightest light available on the deep state vermin they are already scurrying around looking for shelter

  30. Deception and duplicitous arguments… The FBI has been covering up for and colluding with corrupt officials for decades. They dont respect our Bill of rights and the oath they take to defend it. If they did they wouldnt be violating them on a daily basis. The state is evil as long as there are people in it willing and able to do evil things. They NEVER should have been given the ability to circumvent our papers and effects without a judge and due process! They have been weaponized by politicians like Clinton for decades. Sorry FBI but if you screw up then you should just admit it rather then following in the nihilist foot steps of DemonRat politicians! You are corrupt!

  31. Im glad that FOX mentions the subjective talking points that FBI and DemonRats use rather then being objective like they should be.

  32. Lol..the Washington post guy epitomizes what is wrong with the leftist MSM today. They don't care about truth except it is detrimental to Trump in which case they throw objectivity to the wide and run the story. But when it is the opposite, suddenly they claim there should be no rush to release the memo. Jeff Bezos couldn't be prouder of the ridiculous argument that guy was making! #releasethememo

  33. The Democrats used the FBI as if it was part of Party and were there to bring down Donald Trump. The President can release any Document and does not need the Congress to approve anything before the release. The FBI and DOJ must be held accountable, they keep failing to provide information for over sight and only give info after court order.

  34. This guy is crazy if he thinks this memo release is urgent anything but it was held up for 19 days to battle and get votes for it's release which the Dems all voted against it's release. Now that it's going to be released the Dems want to come out with their own memo full of lies and they r pissed they can't shine a bad light on the Nunez memo.

  35. What really hasn't leaked is the fact that many folks have already flipped. You Trumpers better get ready. Nixon was screaming "Fake News" just one day before he left office. When Trump tries to lie , not realizing all they actually have, and ends up committing perjury. That will be but icing on the cake. I'm not a Lib by a long shot.. but you better get ready..

  36. THE DEMS have been screwing around with this phony Russian thing for over a "YEAR" and have nothing to show for it. Probably because there is nothing there except the Dems collusion. Pursue that or as we say in the South they need to go back to the house and stop wasting time and money.

  37. There was no oversight on the FBI DOJ NSA IRS or any other abc agency they misused their power and ran amuck

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